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Monday, November 25, 2002

Seichur rugs

Interested in more information about Seichur rugs after reading Barry O'Connells interesting guide ? Well - check out Jozan's photo gallery Seichur rugs.

Sunday, November 24, 2002

Guide to Seychour Rugs

Hello
I hate to go to bed at night I have been having so much fun doing web pages the last few days. Back in 1996 I conceived of the Rug Notes project I had a hare brained scheme for a prototype predictive data model. The problem is that it takes a huge amount of data both the published data on the Internet and off to be useful. So I have been adding information for 6 years. Lately I have added enough data that as I add more the model becomes more useful. Every time I start to explain this project people think I am an idiot so I will not say too much more and prove them right.
Today I finished a Guide to Seychour Rugs:
http://www.spongobongo.com/0her9802.htm
I hope it is of interest. By the way I have also been annotating topographical maps to show the rug collection points. I think I have identified rugs that I can attribute to the Lesghi of Orta-Stal.
Best wishes,
Barry O'Connell

Saturday, November 23, 2002

Links to rug sites

Check out Jozan.com link pages to find a comprehensive numbers of links to rug sites - Informative, dealer, auction and antique sites.

Friday, November 22, 2002

Educational rug galleries - Jozan Magazine

The educational photo-galleries with more than 1450 Persian rugs, Turkish rugs, Caucasian rugs, Turkmen and Balouch rugs, Chinese and Pakistani rugs, Kilims and Sumakhs are important parts of the rug magazine.
The collections both include antique oriental rugs, new rugs, tribal and village rugs and city carpets. Both rare rugs and rugs common in trade are represented.

Thursday, November 21, 2002

Travelling in Turkey and other rug producing countries

Jozan Magazine has introduced a travelling section. We invite readers of the magazine, rug collectors and dealers to tell about experiences from travelling in rug producing countries - and of course especially about rugs.

Memling Gul Rugs

Barry O'Connell has published a interesting note on Memling Gul Rugs .The result is really worth his efforts.

Wednesday, November 20, 2002

Notes on Memling Gul Rugs

Hello,
I tried something new and I am not sure if it is
worthwhile. Usually I group rugs by geographic or
ethnic considerations. Now I decided to try grouping
by design element. What do you think, is it worth the
effort?
Notes on Memling Gul Rugs
http://www.spongobongo.com/0her9826.htm
Best wishes,
Barry O'Connell

Sunday, November 17, 2002

Rug Article Directory

Jozan Magazine has introduced an idea - the Rug Article Directory with information, description and hyperlinks to interesting rug articles on world wide web. Readers, editors and publishers are invited to suggest articles to be included in the directory listings.

What is an Akstafa rug?

What is an Akstafa rug? A rather basic question but now that I have collected a few examples I started looking at how best to describe them. In particular I was looking at a magnificent example from J. C. Oliveira of Macau.The Oliveira Three Medallion Akstafa
http://www.spongobongo.com/no9844.htm

Jorge wrote in reference to a magnificent Akstafa:
"There aren't many ‘Akstafa' rugs without the traditional large birds on the field. This is one of those few. Also it is uncommon to find those ‘T'-shaped motifs. The same is valid for the small cruciform hooked motif at the medallions' centre. But the most unlikely depiction is the profusion of Talish rosettes, so typical of Talish rug borders. We find it in this rug's borders and inside the medallions. This feature confirms Ian Bennett, Murray Eiland and Harold M. Keshishian's opinion that most of the denominated ‘Akstafa' rugs were actually not woven on the large town in the Kazak weaving district (near Lambalo and Shulaver) but rather on the Shirvan weaving area, probably on south Shirvan. The magnificent colours of this rug also suggest a southern Shirvan attribution."

So obviously when Jorge Oliveira, Ian Bennett, Murray Eiland and Harold M. Keshishian agree on something it is a pretty safe bet. I can not think of anyone who I respect more in the field of Caucasian Pile rugs although there are a few fellows at that level.

So then why not follow the leaders and attribute Akstafa Rugs to South Shirvan and be done with it? Well as I was looking for background information and local color I stumbled across an important find. In the Council of Europe Minister's Deputies CM Documents I found CM(2002)10 Addendum 4 (unclassified) 14 February 2002. The document gives clear and compelling proof that in the Akstafa region there is an Azeri enclave that includes the villages of Sadykhly and Boyuk in Azerbaijan and the villages of Nazarly, Voyovka and Jandar in the Gardabani region of Georgia.

The people in South Shirvan who weave colorful rugs like this were Azeri. Now I differ with men such as Eiland in some respects. Murray places far more importance on geographic considerations than I do. I take an ethno-linguistic approach. I expect Azeri rugs to ook like Azeri rugs no matter where in Azerbaijan they were woven. So Azeri who live near the Kazak region are still Azeri so the rugs they weave should be more like their kinsmen in South Azerbaijan than their unrelated neighbors.
To put it simply I feel that it is reasonable to attribute the Azeri rugs that we call Akstafa to the Azeri of the Akstafa region.

Thursday, November 14, 2002

The Oriental rugs & Carpets SiteRing

The Oriental Rugs & Carpets SiteRing is a list of links to interesting and informative sites on Oriental rugs. The ring has 15 members. Are you the webmaster of a rug site - then contact Ivan Sønderholm for further information about joining the ring.